von BK-Christian | 20.09.2016 | eingestellt unter: Kickstarter, Warpath/Deadzone

Star Saga: Weitere Infos

Mantic Games haben weitere Informationen zu Star Saga vorgestellt.

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Star Saga is almost upon us, and I’m sure a lot of you are keen to know how it plays. So, I’m here to run you through how it works, how it compares to Dungeon Saga, and where we’re going to take it in the future… See what I did there? 😉

The History

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Back in 2015, we launched Dungeon Saga, and it fast became our most successful game to date. It scratched that dungeon crawling itch while using a set of simple, accessible rules. Whether you’re a long-time veteran or a parent looking for your kids’ first foray into gaming, the Dungeon Saga core set is able to deliver.

Of course, there’s more to dungeon crawling than just one story, however exciting the characters and their exploits may be. These board games are an entry point to role-playing – a chance to tell your own stories through a structured set of rules. To take Dungeon Saga to the next level, we created the Adventurer’s Companion. This is a collection of all the things a player might want to do over and above the core game; a sandbox for gamers to create their own stories.

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In hindsight, we admit that the Adventurer’s Companion wasn’t quite the product we wanted it to be. The intentions were right, but the execution wasn’t up to standard. We were taken by surprise by the huge wish-list that came our way when Dungeon Saga went live on Kickstarter, and we ended up trying to please everyone with more than the game was ever intended to handle. Without having the full details of the rules at the time, we mistakenly left our loyal customers with an assumption that we failed to live up to.

This additional development was also done long after the core rules were set, and the new rules were not as integrated as they should have been. While the resulting product can be and has been used to great effect by many players out there, there are too many parts of it that go against the simplicity that we wanted from the range, or don’t go far enough for what the veteran gamers were looking for.

We’ve spent the past year reading all the feedback about Dungeon Saga and its supporting range, and in the meantime we’ve done some great work on the Walking Dead, taking a new approach to the ‘advanced’ rules which has really paid off. We are now armed with everything we need to properly take Dungeon Saga into space.

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What is Star Saga?

So, the obvious question – Is it just Dungeon Saga iiiiiinnnnnn spaaaaaaaacccccceeeee?

In a word, no. Simply porting it across wouldn’t do justice to the futuristic Warpath universe we’ve created. Of course, we don’t want to fix what ain’t broken, so the key elements – the simple core mechanics, the character and story-driven missions and the highly tactical gameplay – they’re all staying.

So, looking at the core game, there are three simple but important changes.

  1. Combat Resolution. In Dungeon Saga, combat works well, but in the interests of making things slicker (it is the future after all) we’ve done away with the Armour value, and removed an entire step from the combat process. Models now have a Defence value – a number of dice to roll just like the other stats – and all combat is a simple opposed roll. In practice this is significantly quicker and more intuitive, with just as much freedom to play around with stats and vary the characters. Alongside this we have swapped the regular dice for custom attack and defence dice. The added visual aspect to this also speeds up the process – it’s quicker to spot at a glance that a big shield beats a little explosion than it is to see if a 4 beats a 3.
  2. Cover. It’s actually pretty hard to be in cover in Dungeon Saga – the line of sight rules are very forgiving. This is fine for a game with minimal shooting, but in the future, where guns are far more commonplace, this had to change. The line of sight rules have first of all been tidied up to satisfy everything from the FAQ, and secondly the cover rules have been turned on their head. Instead of having a clear view if you can see any of the base, now you only have a clear view if you can see all of the base, so it’s far easier to find a place to hide. In addition, we have added a rule for taking pot-shots by leaning around corners, to make everything a bit more dynamic.
  3. Overlord Cards. The Overlord (now called the Nexus player, as Overlord is a rather fantasy-sounding word) deck is now far more important to their gameplay – it determines everything they are able to do, such as the number of models that can activate in each turn, as well as special abilities they can use. The number of minions is no longer finite either – there are reinforcements! The deck is also no longer used as a timer. We don’t want the Mercenaries to have all the fun, so this card deck adds an extra tactical element to the Nexus player’s game. Certain events in the story are also governed by the card deck – alarms going off, doors opening, bosses turning up, and so on. Putting these on the cards rather than as special rules in the book reduces the time spent looking things up. Finally, having everything managed through the card deck means you can play without the Nexus player there at all… Yep, we’re integrating solo and co-op play into the core game from the start!

All of this is embedded into a series of missions where we have gone to great lengths to enhance the storytelling aspect of the game – each mission has evocative passages to read out at key points to set the scene and explain the next stage of the mission.

Following that, the core game will include a simple but exciting experience system to allow the characters to level up as the story progresses. Instead of the pre-set Legendary versions of the characters that Dungeon Saga uses, in Star Saga the characters will earn skills and upgrades as they go. Not only does this properly but simply integrate yet another part of the ‘advanced’ rules into the core game, it also improves replayability, as you won’t always improve in the same way each time you play through.

On the subject of replayability, our Warpath universe is rich with characters already, and Star Saga is only going to enhance that aspect. So, the final main addition to the rules is the ability to play any mission with any characters, right from the start. In the Kickstarter we are hoping to give you plenty of Mercenaries, each with their own play style, and through a simple points system you can drop them straight into the missions. This also means you don’t need to have four Mercenaries – you can play with any number, simply adjusting the turn sequence to suit.

What’s Beyond the Core Game?

As you will see, we’re sowing the seeds for a lot of the advanced rules in the core game itself, and we are being careful to do this in a way that fits within the simple and accessible brief that we set ourselves. The game is not intended to be a full RPG that takes things down to the finest detail – it’s intended to provide a similar feeling game that can be played out of the box, making the best use of cards and integrated mechanics to reduce the learning curve while keeping the depth.

Therefore, Star Saga will not have an Adventurer’s Companion. We have refined the remaining content down into two smaller expansions:

  • The Character Creator provides rules for building your own Mercenaries – listing all the available races and classes and their strengths and weaknesses. It will also build on the experience system in the core game with additional skills and abilities to learn. As our playtesters were excited to realise, this will allow you to take characters from your Deadzone Strike Team and drop them straight into Star Saga – how cool is that?
  • The Mission Creator does a similar job – it provides a framework for creating missions. This will be purposefully kept fairly loose so as not to restrict players’ creativity. The set will also add new cards to the Nexus deck, and new equipment to be found in your newly created levels.

Alongside the core game, these two cover pretty much all the bases, and provide something for everyone in what has become the true Mantic way – deceptively simple mechanics, lots of tactical decision making, and a good helping of madness!

Kurzzusammenfassung BK-Online

Star Saga wird die Grundmechaniken aus Dungeon Saga erneut aufgreifen, allerdings einige Dinge anpassen, z.B. um dem wichtigeren Fernkampf Gerecht zu werden. Darüber hinaus werden Kampfprobem generell etwas vereinfacht und beschleunigt, und die Möglichkeiten des Overlords (der bei Star Saga Nexus heißt) wurden erweitert.

Mantic Games haben die Probleme beim Adventurer’s Companiun erkannt und werden bei Star Saga andere Wege gehen. Es wird ein Buch zur Erstellung eigener Charaktere geben, und eines, mit dem Missionen gebaut werden können. Auch Deadzone-Charaktere sollen auf diese Weise in Star Saga übertragbar sein.

Wie viele Spielmodi es genau geben wird, ist in dem Artikel nicht genannt, in einem früheren Beitrag war von 3 die Rede.

Mantic Games ist unter anderem bei unserem Partner Radaddel erhältlich.

Quelle: Mantic Games

BK-Christian

Chefredakteur und Betreiber von Brückenkopf-Online. Seit 2002 im Hobby, erstes Tabletop Warhammer Fantasy (Dunkelelfen). Aktuelle Projekte: Primaris Space Marines, Summoners (alle Fraktionen), Deathmatch, Deadzone/Warpath (Asterianer und Enforcer), diverse Raumschiffe und allerlei Mechs.

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Kommentare

      • Ich glaube Max spielte eher auf die kurze deutsche Zusammenfassung am Ende an…..

        Und kleiner Hinweis: Auch das Zusammensuchen, Kopieren einer News kostet zusammen mit dem Speichern, Hochladen und korrekt bennen der Bilder Zeit, das passiert nämlich alles nicht von alleine. Aber das nur am Rande…

      • @Christian:
        Auch von mir Danke für die Zusammenfassung…ich habe mitbekommen, wie sowas vor ein paar Tagen explizit von ein paar Usern gebeten wurde. Hut ab, dass ihr Vorschläge so schnell umsetzt ^^
        Und wer nicht in der Lage ist Artikel vollständig zu lesen und die Arbeit einer unengeltlichen Redaktion zu würdigen…naja…

        @Topic: Dungeon Saga habe ich nie gespielt, aber das klingt interessant 🙂 Je nach Preis im regulären Handel ist das mal einen Blick wert.

  • Hallo Christian: Es gibt laut Text oben zumindest drei Optionen das Spiel zu spielen:
    Yep, we’re integrating solo and co-op play into the core game from the start!

    Und Ich bin gespannt. Das wird wohl dann vielleicht doch noch der Einstieg in Mantic Dungeoncrawler.

  • Morgen Zusammen 🙂

    Ich selbst spiele unheimlich gerne KoW und habe mir aufgrund der guten Erfahrungen mit der Firma Mantic vor 3 Wochen Dungeon Saga gekauft!

    Finde es natürlich toll, dass man aus Firmensicht sein Repertoire erweitert dennoch habe ich nun etwas bammel ob dann andere Dinge, in dem Fall Dungeon-Saga auf der „Strecke“ bleibt oder dies nach wie vor support erfährt…

    Schau mer mal 😉

    • Zumindest gibt es 4 Erweiterungen für DS, so das dies noch für 1-2 Jahre reichen solllte. Dazu ja noch die Szenarien des ursprünglichen Spiels.

      Ich denke das die in spätestens 2 Jahren weitere Bocxen rausbringen.

      Mars Attacks aber wird richtig vernachlässigt. Auf ein FAQ warte ich immer noch.

    • Ich denke auch, dass Dungeon Saga bereits sehr gut vertreten ist, das SPiel verfügt ja schon über einige Erweiterungen und anders als ein Tabletop ist ein Crawler-Brettspiel ja auch nicht darauf angewiesen, dass regelmäßig Nachschub kommt.

      Mars Attacks ist so eine Sache, das ist irgendwie ziemlich eingeschlafen, aber im Grunde ist da auch alles erschienen, was man sinnvoll anbringen kann (von kleinem Nischenkram abgesehen), lediglich eine Regelpflege wäre in der Tat sinnvoll.

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